We have a conversation with Creed Taylor, Chief of Extractions at Leaf Infusion and he has long history in extractions, I think you’ll enjoy the conversation. We also stop on Cultivar Corner, brought to you by Up In Smoke, we try 3rd Coast Genetics and Jack Truffle – a delightful sativa.
We have a conversation with Creed Taylor, Chief of Extractions at Leaf Infusion and he has long history in extractions, I think you’ll enjoy the conversation. We also stop on Cultivar Corner, brought to you by Up In Smoke, we try 3rd Coast Genetics and Jack Truffle – a delightful sativa.
3rd Coast Genetics Jack Truffle
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Gary Johnston
From a studio high above the clouds of the Okanagan Valley. This is the cannabis potcast.
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Ian
Exploring the world of Canadian cannabis culture. One toke at a time. Here is your host and Bud tender Gary Johnston.
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Gary Johnston
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Gary Johnston
We're going to spend the next 30 minutes or so talking about cannabis. A plant I am absolutely passionate about. Now, before we get too much further, let me remind you this podcast is intended for those of legal consumption age in your jurisdiction and is intended purely for entertainment and perhaps educational purposes. You should always consume your cannabis responsibly on episode 215 of the Cannabis potcast.
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Gary Johnston
We're having a conversation with Creed Tator creators, the chief of extractions at Leaf Infusion. He's got a long history in extractions, and I think you're going to enjoy the conversation. We also stop on Cultivar Corner, brought to you by Up in Smoke. And we try Third Coast Genetics and Jack truffle, a delightful sativa. All of that and more on episode 215 of the Cannabis potcast.
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Gary Johnston
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Gary Johnston
I appreciate it, dude. Thank you very much. Now, let's get to today's interview. Today we are having a conversation with Creed Taylor. He's the chief of extraction at Leaf Infusions. Creed is a renowned and highly regarded practitioner og extract producer in the Canadian cannabis industry. Always on the lookout for new goods. Creed has been producing banger extracts for over a decade, staying local to legacy crossing iconic strains, putting time in the lab.
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Gary Johnston
He's constantly perfecting the craft he's recognized and celebrated for producing high quality extracts for over a decade. Awarded 2023 extractor of the year. He utilizes the latest technologies and proprietary techniques, ensuring all products meet his informed and exceptional standards of excellence. We pick up the conversation right after I welcomed Creed to the cannabis potcast Creed. Welcome to the Cannabis potcast.
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Creed Taylor
Happy to be here.
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Gary Johnston
Yeah, glad to have you on the show and excited about what you're going to talk about for sure. But of course, my first question is to you, where did your cannabis journey begin?
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Creed Taylor
Yeah, at a really young age. Probably started consuming pot at around 12 years old. Because it was, very, prevalent in my household. My father born and raised Kingston, Jamaica, and my mother's, Canadian, of the, you know, flower child era of the 70s. So kind of grew up with pot being consumed around me at all times.
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Creed Taylor
And they were also, you know, relatively close with, people like Michelle Rainey and Greg Williams and Mark Emery Jr and kind of the, the, the early phases of the big cannabis culture movement. So I was always being exposed, at a young age, for sure. And that's where my journey began.
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Gary Johnston
And, and so you've obviously taken that dream to be more than just what you're doing. Because you've made that your profession. So what are you doing it, leaf?
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Creed Taylor
Yeah. Super happy to be here. Leaf infusions, as the chief of extraction. My responsibilities include, you know, all the design and development of our, extraction SKUs as well as, maintaining the inputs for our other brands, like, trophy and Biggie's. The gummies. But, mainly, I'm focused on just producing the best extract products I can.
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Creed Taylor
The best, vape carts all with, you know, premium input, fresh frozen live resin, everything. True craft, true to strain. Just, I'm all about the Terps, and, I'm not a big fan of distillate and, and artificial turbines. So I pretty much do whatever I can to create, you know, a high end, excuse for live resin input.
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Gary Johnston
Oh, excellent. I am so happy to hear that. That you're not into desolate. Into into, artificial terpenes, because those just do nothing for my conscience.
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Creed Taylor
Yeah. For sure. No, I mean, I think it's, you know, obviously there's a huge space for it in the industry, and, you can't assume that everyone is going to be, you know, connoisseur level of consumption. So, you know, there's a space for it. But for me, I think, you know, I want my weed to taste like weed.
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Creed Taylor
I'm a fan of, you know, cultivars and genetics and, you know, the experience and, and skills and expertise that go into, you know, genetic selection. And I think the only way to, like, honor that is to have true to stream extracts and cannabis products.
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Gary Johnston
Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. So what's exciting you these days? What are you working on this. What's really exciting?
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Creed Taylor
I think it's cool to see, you know, a big boom in all in one devices. You know, as opposed to five, ten vape carts, which have been the standard for, you know, vaporizing cannabis oils and distillates for, you know, ten, 15 years now. And the designs haven't really changed. There hasn't really been much modernization of the 510 card.
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Creed Taylor
So I think with all in one designs, although they may be a little bit, less beneficial for the environment in terms of the disposability, I think they offer a lot of accessibility and, the types of oils that people are putting in these expensive all in ones are usually pretty premium oils and premium products. And I just, yeah, I'm excited to see, you know, the ability for someone to walk around with like, a slick little all in one vape without needing to screw it onto a battery or, you know, things like that.
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Gary Johnston
And making sure the battery's charged and everything else.
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Creed Taylor
Yeah, yeah, for sure. But I mean, aside from that, I think, you know, we're seeing a lot of exciting new cultivars that are becoming popular in the Canadian space. And so, hashes are also becoming popular. Again. I'm super excited about, you know, live rosés and, the expansion of live or, like, high end live resins into the legal market.
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Creed Taylor
I think that's something that's really exciting as well.
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Gary Johnston
So what's the process you go through when you decided on a cultivar that you want to bring to market? What do you where do you start and how do you get there?
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Creed Taylor
Yeah. Usually, you know, a sample, an array of samples from, a grower or breeder. Then, you know, you work your way through the extraction process, determine, first of all, you know, feasibility, yield is, is, a major part of it. So, you know, you're you're tracking your yields. You're, you know, doing your certificates of analysis to, to, you know, final potencies, turbine spectrums and cannabinoid spectrums.
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Creed Taylor
And if it falls, you know, within unacceptable, you know, range, you do a cost benefit analysis. And it's not always about what tastes the best and smells the best. Unfortunately, when you're considering dollars and cents. But it is a it is a combination of all those things. So yeah, you know, get a couple of cultivars, extract them all, track the data.
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Creed Taylor
Figure out what's best for you and then hope that you can get your hands on enough of it to commercialize, a product. So, if it's commercially viable, then. Yeah, sourcing the biomass consistent, is the next step for sure. Then moving it into commercial.
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Gary Johnston
Production because because obviously that's going to be a lot of the issue is having enough biomass to, to do what you gotta do. How much how much do you actually need to do one of your typical runs?
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Creed Taylor
Well, can seriously vary. At my previous home, with at Astra, doing the brands like Endgame and Phyto and, and various other, you know, core manufacturing, we would need to acquire, you know, thousands of kilos, thousands and thousands of kilos, to maintain a commercial rate of, of production. But it's. Yeah, you know, obviously the larger and scale you get, the more difficult it is to, you know, leverage quality.
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Creed Taylor
So, you know, also, you know, not every grower and cultivator is going to have that biomass available in the thousands of kilos, you know, for the next two years, they're going to, you know, start to be finished with that crop, or you can't get any more of the trim or the flower. And then next thing you know, you've commercialized the skew with no biomass availability.
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Creed Taylor
So, we're on a bit more of a craft scale here. At leaf, which I'm very excited about. It allows me to, you know, focus a lot more, attention on detail. And I'd say, you know, we're we're buying anywhere from 250 to 1000 kilos of fresh frozen at a time, more limited by space for a fresh frozen.
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Creed Taylor
Takes up quite a bit more space than.
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Gary Johnston
It does.
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Creed Taylor
Material. Yeah. So, you know, we're limited to what our walk in freezer can support. But, you know, also our rates of production, we're not always, you know, pedal to the metal, just extracting all the time. There's a lot of post-production and, you know, R&D and stuff that's happening to you.
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Gary Johnston
So I bet there is various. Yeah. So give me a sample of what some of that R&D is, is you bring in a cultivar in and and you look at what you want to do to that. What are some of the things you look at.
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Creed Taylor
Well, basically as soon as it's out of like post-production, the purging phase and I've, you know, rendered it into whatever final state I desire. I'm going straight outside and putting into my peak and smoking, you know, that. That's that's the depth. That's the depth and level of complication of this R&D is you literally just smoke it.
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Creed Taylor
And, you know, I'm, I'm a passionate connoisseur, so it has to check, you know, a few boxes for me, obviously, you know, turps, you know, quality of, of resin, color of resin, you know, the maturity of the plant, you know, during the harvest phase is very, very important. So a lot of these things, you know, gauging if you can tell if it's has it been too vegetal of a taste, then it's probably an early harvest.
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Creed Taylor
And if the oils are really dark, it could have been pushed, too late in its term, you know, flowering terms and, well, there's, there's always a happy medium. You got to work closely with the cultivators during the R&D process. So that, you know, you can give them enough feedback to, to tweak their next harvest and things like that.
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Creed Taylor
Sometimes I'll pass entirely. You know, after going through an R&D process, you'll find that something just isn't stable enough or consistent enough to commercialize. So, yeah, I mean, my favorite part of the R&D process is literally just smoking all the, I mean, it's the only way you can truly determine. Yeah, the taste, the taste test about any grower, any grower would know, you know, like that's as soon as that stuff's done drying and you're rolling up a huge shot, you want to smoke it out back.
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Gary Johnston
So. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's so cool to hear about. So so so let's go go back to the basics. So describe the extraction process. What do you go through and what do I end up with for sure.
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Creed Taylor
I mean the equipment itself usually is quite specialized for, you know, your desired process, but, you know, you're you're taking your fresh, frozen, you're packing it into a mesh nylon sock. I don't know if it's nylon. It's, it's a it's a chemical resistant, like, mesh sock. And you pack the fresh frozen, and then it's usually about 100 microns.
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Creed Taylor
So it's it's own kind of filter bag that's inserted into, you know, your stainless steel columns. The stainless steel columns have hopefully been pre chilled by your cooler to, you know, -20 or below -40 if you can your, you insert the cannabis into the steel column and you flood it with a solvent blend usually 70, 30, liquid butane and liquid propane.
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Creed Taylor
One the propane is usually for it's, expansive pressure is a much better propellant than butane. Butane at room temperature has quite actually a low standing p.s.i, whereas, propane at room temperature has a quite, high standing, so you're, you're flooding this combination of solvents into the, the fresh frozen flour, and it's saturating through it at this point, it's, you know, starting to dissolve all of the resin glands on the surface of the plant.
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Creed Taylor
One of the unique things about extracting live resin or fresh frozen material is that, the butane doesn't really penetrate the cells of the plant as far because it's, hydrophobic. So because the plant still has so much water content in it, it just kind of washing the surface resin off the plant, which in a lot of cases is the highest quality resin, due to its exposure to UV.
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Creed Taylor
So you're creating a saturated solution in this column and now your job is to filter it. You don't want any plant matter in there or, you know, chlorophyl or plant fats and waxes. These are all things that are very easy to extract with a solvent. Temperature mitigates a lot of that. You know, saturation of undesirable.
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Creed Taylor
But you still have to filter. There's always a filter. It doesn't matter whether you're whether you're doing like, shake, ISO, shake through a coffee filter or whatever, there's still always going to be filtration process. So it's pumped through what's usually called a remediation column. We have lots of, you know, strict, federal law to abide by in Canada, obviously.
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Creed Taylor
So you have to remediate the oil to a point where there'll be no more traces of pesticides or heavy metals or, you know, residuals from the growing process. So you remediate it through kind of like a, a powdered filter of silica and carbon. And this, helps scrub out all of these unwanted materials. Usually at this point, it comes out as a beautiful, clear, bright yellow, you know, fluorescent hue oil.
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Creed Taylor
And then you know, you've done something, right. So the oil is flowing through your filter and into your collection vessel now, and your collection vessel, is basically just to capture all of this, like, heavily saturated butane and oil solution. Once you've got it all through your column and all through your filter, now it's time to heat up your solution, and the heat turns the liquid back into a vapor.
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Creed Taylor
And so now all of your solvents are coming out of the solution you've created, getting pumped through the system and back into the start of your tank. And once you've done this properly, you're left with your beautiful clean oil.
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Gary Johnston
Nice. That's that's a that's a wonderful description.
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Creed Taylor
Thank you very much. It's like, I never really know how deep to go because you could get incredibly technical or you could simplify it.
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Gary Johnston
Yeah. No, no, no, that was really good. I really like that. So what has been the the one you've been most excited about, let's say in the last six months working on.
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Creed Taylor
Oof, we're dealing with some really nice outdoor biomass from a cultivator called McIntyre Creek, here in BC. They have a lot of nice cultivars. Recently we've been extracting one called tangerine. This is, tangerine Punch and Joe, cross. So very citrus forward. Really nice bright, fruity terps. Good maturity. Really nice quality of resin.
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Creed Taylor
Good stability. So, yeah, this, this band green from MacIntyre creek's been nice. We haven't commercialized it yet, but it's definitely one that I'm excited about.
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Gary Johnston
But it's on the mark.
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Creed Taylor
It will be hopefully. Like I said, if we can, lock down the biomass, it's quite it's quite a fight these days to, to secure your biomass because there's lots of extractors looking for good quality.
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Gary Johnston
I bet there is. I bet that in and of itself is an industry that's that's happening right now.
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Creed Taylor
Of course, of course. And of course, the biggest, the biggest players are acquiring the most mass and leaving very little for, for the small guys. Right. I backed, but it's, I'm sure it's a tactic, that they're using.
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Gary Johnston
So do you struggle with that? Is it, is it a challenge for you to get your biomass?
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Creed Taylor
Definitely. Definitely. Because there's companies that'll pay, you know, one penny more per gram, than you're offering, you know, so it becomes, you know, a bidding war often. Okay. Especially for the best material. But like I said, for the big players, it's no problem for them to just come and just sweep 10,000 kilos of biomass off the market.
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Creed Taylor
You know, and it's, Yeah. Yeah, it can be. Can definitely pose challenges for sure.
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Gary Johnston
I bet it does. And that's a scale that I just can't comprehend. That scale is just just so enormous can for somebody who just smoked weed.
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Creed Taylor
Oh for sure. That's a really interesting part about this industry is it puts so much in perspective. It really just changes your idea of what a lot of weed is. It sure.
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Gary Johnston
Does.
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Creed Taylor
You know what a lot of oil is or, you know, that's, it can definitely be a shock. And it desensitizes, you.
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Gary Johnston
Know.
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Creed Taylor
And, and, you know, playing with 1000 kilos seems like playing with 100g.
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Gary Johnston
Absolutely. So, in terms of, leaf infusions or what kind of product line are we talking about?
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Creed Taylor
Yeah. Leaf infusions has, a really cool product line up. Super unique in my opinion, because like I said, were fresh, frozen and live resin focused for the majority of our inputs. One I'm really excited about, you know, is our new, base products here cover that up just for reasons. Yeah. The base product, this is a new XL package, so 60mg per container.
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Creed Taylor
You know, as opposed to the, you know, federally mandated ten milligrams that we've been so used to, so these guys pop open, and then you have individually packed ten milligram gummies. Okay.
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Gary Johnston
That's how you're doing it.
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Creed Taylor
So, babies, really excited to be promoting this brand and all, you know, live resin input for the THC. So no distillate or isolates being used. It's like nice full spectrum extract, which I love. Then we have, trophy. This is our kind of, like, health and wellness brand. This is all CBD, CBG focused. So, you know, these are, this is a really unique flavors, too.
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Creed Taylor
This is a matcha latte.
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Gary Johnston
Oh. Nice.
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Creed Taylor
Very interesting flavor. Yeah, polarizing for some, but, very exciting.
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Gary Johnston
And all. Of course, ten milligrams THC per. Per unit.
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Creed Taylor
Yeah. Exactly. Trophy is a no THC brand.
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Gary Johnston
So this is.
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Creed Taylor
CBD only CBD, perhaps? Yeah, exactly. And then we have high key here, which is kind of, my most recent extract product. Okay, focus on, you know, premium, premium quality, damnable extracts. Oh. Nice. We have, diamonds and terp sourced a lot of 33. We have a Tangerine Punch, kind of homogenized live resin. Oh, then we have a, a couple five tens, purple juice and citrus slushie.
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Creed Taylor
And then to all in ones, a banana smoothie. And Hendrick's has, and out of out of the whole product line. I'd say that Hendrick's is all in ones is my by far my favorite.
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Gary Johnston
Nice. Yeah, you've mentioned the all in ones already, so obviously that is something that's near and dear to your heart.
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Creed Taylor
Mostly just for convenience. I mean, I'm a a legacy market guy. I've. I've been making oil since before it was called dabs. Before we got dab rigs and all these fancy contraptions for smoking.
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Gary Johnston
Yeah. True.
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Creed Taylor
And I'm, I'm a simple man, but I do, you know, enjoy my beautiful, you know, heavy glass rigs, and I. I smoke in a very traditional fashion when I'm at home. But when you're on the go, like, we have the ability to just, like, pull something like this out of your pocket, that's, like, slim and ergonomic that you know, has quality, like premium oil inside.
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Creed Taylor
It's, you know, you're still going to you're still going to smoke. And I've won over a lot of, pots, knobs with a good premium all in one. Guys who say like, oh, I know I don't smoke vapes, I don't smoke this. I don't worry about that. I'm like, okay, we'll try this one and tell me how you I feel.
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Gary Johnston
So yeah. So what was that device that you did?
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Creed Taylor
This? This is the, leaf II active? They're one of our hardware partners. It's, relatively new hardware design. It's been on the market for a bit. It's nothing revolutionary, but it's tested. It's consistent. Very low return rate. Very low failure rate. Just pure carboxylate. It live resin under pressure in a stainless steel reactor with a nitrogen blanket so that, the terps don't really have the ability to expand out of the solution while you're carboxylate.
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Creed Taylor
And we've had upwards of, you know, like, 6% turbines, 9% turbines, remaining. So really high flavor, flavor focused, not really, looking to compete in this, like, potency space race, you know, where everyone's just focused on, you know, 95% THC. There's honestly tests that come on that like, there's nothing really naturally existing in the cannabis space that gets to that potency.
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Creed Taylor
And if you're a true purist of the plant, you realize, like, the more you try and purify and isolate and separate, the more you, oxidize. And actually, you know, degrade over time, like, so, yeah, the the plant is perfect in its natural form. It was designed to protect itself from, you know, arid climates, humid climates, you know, predators, all these things.
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Creed Taylor
This plant has been evolving for so much longer than we've even been on this planet. We've been very naive to think that through our own, you know, efforts that we could somehow improve upon. Yeah. You know, miraculous plant, which it truly is a miraculous.
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Gary Johnston
And it truly is. Yeah. I'm a fan. I'm a believer.
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Creed Taylor
Yeah. So I'm, you know, I'm a, I don't like adulteration. I don't like adaptation. But I think, you know, we should, like I said, honor the cultivators. The extractors would be nothing without the cultivators and breeders who put so much effort into isolating and developing genetic traits of plants that it's, you know, to pay homage to these people, is to, you know, honor the plant in a 1 to 1 ratio.
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Creed Taylor
You know, that's why when I say true to strain, that's kind of what I'm implying is that, hopefully, and even through a certificate of analysis and analyzing the compounds, the same, compounds should exist in the same relative ratios. If you've done your, your extraction process.
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Gary Johnston
If you do not. Well, yeah. Your explanation has have been exceptional. Throughout you've done for me, a great opportunity to look into what you're doing from an extraction perspective. I really love it. What do you what have you not been able to do that you're excited to do over the next year or so?
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Creed Taylor
Definitely, live resins, you know, using the fresh frozen, the high quality fresh frozen that we already have available to us that we use for our live resins. But doing a little bit more, selection, a little more R&D, and finding a fresh frozen cultivar that I could wash for full melt hash in house and then press into live rosin.
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Creed Taylor
You know, any true connoisseur knows how important a hash is to, you know, the the cannabis history. And, especially as an extractor that's like it may be the oldest form of extraction, the earliest form of extraction and mechanical separation, but somehow it's still the most sophisticated. And we can't, although it's not, you know, chemically sophisticated or mechanically mechanically sophisticated in process.
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Creed Taylor
The resins are so sophisticated and are such a such a proper expression of a cultivar that, you know, it'd be hard to, have a debate with, you know, even the most strict hydrocarbon extractors, and, and not agree that live rosin and premium hashes are like, the epitome of, of.
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Gary Johnston
Yeah.
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Creed Taylor
They have the weed game, you know. Yeah.
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Gary Johnston
Yeah, absolutely. Far superior. Excellent. Well, this has been a great discussion. So if you don't mind, Creed, I've got some hockey question for you.
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Creed Taylor
Yeah. Let's go to.
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Gary Johnston
Your favorite cultivar. Ooh.
00;25;13;17 - 00;25;16;19
Creed Taylor
The original Congolese.
00;25;16;21 - 00;25;20;28
Gary Johnston
Oh. I just had some Congolese. Maybe not the original, but. Yeah.
00;25;21;01 - 00;25;44;16
Creed Taylor
Yeah, the, I believe, la mano Negra, cultivar is the one that is like one of the earliest forms that was brought back for, you know, local cultivation and, you know, like they were you have to flower these, these cultivars, like, 14 weeks, 12, 13, 14 weeks, these, these African cultivar cultivars, they, they have such a long flowering time.
00;25;44;16 - 00;26;03;08
Creed Taylor
But imagine you tell a grower like, oh, like we're not harvesting at nine weeks or ten weeks. We're pushing this 14 weeks like you have to be such a connoisseur or, you know, in the growth space to to truly, truly push a, African land race sativa to its like, maturity. So, yeah, a real Congolese lament on that.
00;26;03;08 - 00;26;08;05
Creed Taylor
Grow a select, 14 week flower that's like, that's it.
00;26;08;07 - 00;26;14;00
Gary Johnston
That's your ultimate excellent joints are survey.
00;26;14;02 - 00;26;20;08
Creed Taylor
Classic man I'd say, if I had was forced to choose, I'd probably choose a fat joint over of it.
00;26;20;10 - 00;26;24;15
Gary Johnston
Yeah, I kind of figured you would be, your favorite munchie.
00;26;24;17 - 00;26;31;00
Creed Taylor
Oh, that's a good one. Milkshakes. Oh, nice. A fine milkshake in a.
00;26;31;00 - 00;26;31;14
Gary Johnston
Nice.
00;26;31;14 - 00;26;32;14
Creed Taylor
High end.
00;26;32;16 - 00;26;36;07
Gary Johnston
Nice. Excellent. Edibles or flower.
00;26;36;10 - 00;26;40;06
Creed Taylor
Or flower all day. I'm actually not a big edibles guy. Not a big edibles guy.
00;26;40;09 - 00;26;43;22
Gary Johnston
Do do edibles work for you? Because for me, they don't.
00;26;43;24 - 00;26;52;17
Creed Taylor
For me, they work all too well. Oh, they do way to my of my, I guess my metabolic, consumption of of, like, cannabis,
00;26;52;20 - 00;26;54;28
Gary Johnston
You know, metabolism is perfect for it.
00;26;55;01 - 00;27;10;29
Creed Taylor
Yeah. It's like I just get so, so spaced out, so I, I actually try and stay away from edibles as much as possible, especially legacy market edibles. Not that I'm hating on them, but it's like if I if I don't know exactly how many milligrams of I, I'm going to assume it's way too much.
00;27;11;01 - 00;27;18;25
Gary Johnston
Absolutely. Way too much. Wonderful. Well, that's all the questions I have for you, Creed. Thanks so much for the discussion today. Enjoy the rest of your day. Yeah.
00;27;18;27 - 00;27;23;25
Creed Taylor
Yeah. Nice and easy, man. Thank you for having me, I appreciate it. And, hope to meet you in person sometime.
00;27;23;27 - 00;27;24;20
Gary Johnston
Yeah, absolutely.
00;27;24;20 - 00;27;27;05
Creed Taylor
That's me smoking. Nice joint. Yeah.
00;27;27;07 - 00;27;29;07
Gary Johnston
You got it. You got the idea.
00;27;29;09 - 00;27;31;04
Creed Taylor
Have a great day, sir. He was well.
00;27;31;10 - 00;27;37;03
Gary Johnston
Did see CBD to beam profile. What's it? Me?
00;27;37;03 - 00;27;39;15
Speaker 3
Oh, please explain to me.
00;27;39;15 - 00;27;40;24
Gary Johnston
Go to the.
00;27;40;26 - 00;27;47;06
Unknown
The go to the commercial. Yeah. Go to the portal.
00;27;47;06 - 00;28;08;16
Gary Johnston
Please explain this stuff to me. Welcome to Cultivar Corner. Brought to you by Up in Smoke. It's 258 West Broadway in Vancouver and online at it's up and smoke.com. Remember, if you are 19 years of age or older and you live in B.C., you can go to the online menu and have something sent to you through mail order.
00;28;08;23 - 00;28;34;12
Gary Johnston
It works well. They often get it there the very next day. And remember as well that if you are live in Vancouver, you can order by 2 p.m. and have it delivered the same day. That's pretty cool. Well, what are we doing today? We are doing Jack truffle. Yes, you heard right. Third coast Genetics have produced Jack truffle, a sativa Jack.
00;28;34;12 - 00;29;07;23
Gary Johnston
Hurrah! And black truffle is what our crosses. Jack truffle is a high potency sativa bred by Max yields, the prolific breeder behind Third Coast Genetics, a fusion of the legendary Jack Harold and the esteemed Black truffle, this train offers an electrifying experience for those seeking a bold and flavorful sativa. It's Turpin profile, dominated by turf paneling, create a striking blend of haze, fruit and diesel, delivering a complex and invigorating aroma.
00;29;07;26 - 00;29;41;15
Gary Johnston
With levels ranging from 27 to 33%, Jack Truffle embodies the innovative breeding techniques of Third Coast genetics. THC is 27 to 30. What is my sitting at? My THC is actually at 29.8. My terpenes are 2.3. My total terms are 3.8 and my dominant terpenes Turpin, lean machine, human lean, carry off, lean, and limonene. It's available in a 14 gram bag.
00;29;41;15 - 00;30;05;22
Gary Johnston
That's what I pick up. Oh, I have my joint. I have the mighty. What am I waiting for? I know. I always love doing citrus. That's one of my favorite daytime smokes, no question about it. And I like doing City of is in the daytime. And I went looking to find one last week and I found Jack truffle from Third Coast Genetics.
00;30;05;24 - 00;30;15;08
Gary Johnston
This is a good one. Let's give it a try. This is Drac Truffle, a sativa.
00;30;15;11 - 00;30;41;01
Gary Johnston
All nice and smooth on a smoke. Let me get my mighty so it's prepared and ready when I'm ready to test it. Oh. That's nice. Oh, there's a little gas, is there? There we go. That's their paneling. Give me a little bit of gas for the mirrors. He's going to give me some samples or some smells of the earth.
00;30;41;03 - 00;31;16;14
Gary Johnston
Earthy, human. Not sure what that's going to do. Carry off lean. Going to give me some peppers and limonene. And that is is significantly in my blood. There's a lot of limonene here as I smell this. So levels of ranging from 23, 27 to 33%, I'm s 29.8. And I'm enjoying how this feels. Oh yeah. I like a I love a good sativa and I love getting a great start to my day.
00;31;16;16 - 00;31;23;02
Gary Johnston
So we've had a couple of talks of the joint.
00;31;23;05 - 00;31;45;05
Gary Johnston
Now the mighty is ready. Let's give it a try on the vaporizer. So this is Jack trouble. So a cross between Jagras and black truffle. This is Jack truffle sativa through the mighty.
00;31;45;07 - 00;31;55;28
Gary Johnston
Oh yeah. There's a nice haze and some fruit, some diesel. There's a little bit of gas leanness to that.
00;31;56;00 - 00;32;05;23
Gary Johnston
Oh, yeah. I have to agree. It is an invigorating aroma that's coming out of this.
00;32;05;25 - 00;32;16;19
Gary Johnston
Wow. Very nice, very nice.
00;32;16;22 - 00;32;34;22
Gary Johnston
I just love getting high. And I can't lie. I can't say that I don't enjoy smoking cannabis. I do, I truly do. And we'll get a little bit more out of vaporizer.
00;32;34;25 - 00;33;03;26
Gary Johnston
Oh, and it's starting to roll around in my endocannabinoid system. I feel my CB1 receptors are kind of a engaged in my brain and through my spinal cord. Oh yes, they are. Oh, there's that feeling of sativa, that euphoria that comes with a sativa, getting into my happy eyes. Little bit of that. Definitely got some euphoria going on.
00;33;03;26 - 00;33;27;27
Gary Johnston
There's a lot of smoke. There's a lot of smelling of gas and some diesel, some fruits, maybe even a little bit of haze. It's obviously down along the haze line. Jacaranda and black travel is what it is. It is Jack travel, etc. and it's have a nice impact. Let me tell you what is happening with my gray ash coming off that joint.
00;33;27;29 - 00;33;53;07
Gary Johnston
And as I dive into it a little bit more, I've got about three quarters of about a half an inch of ash on there. Yep, there it is. Nice and ashy and it falls really nicely. So things are looking good. And feelings are pretty good. I'm feeling pretty good. And I think, I'm going to be feeling pretty good after this.
00;33;53;10 - 00;34;20;09
Gary Johnston
Oh, there's some more out of my mighty getting the vaporizer. So I get just get those fruity, the haziness, the diesel. There's a little bit of gas in there. There's some really complex, invigorating aromas coming out of my mighty. And not so much out of my joint in that it's just smoke. But this is feeling really good.
00;34;20;12 - 00;34;51;11
Gary Johnston
Was not knocking me on my butt. It's not. It's not a kick ass stone. Although at 29.3% 29.8, it should be kick in here in my blood. Pretty good. But I know if it has been, I guess it kind of has been. Yeah, yeah. All my, my CB1 receptors are just there. Just a flutter, a flutter with the sativa and sativa weed that I have been smoking.
00;34;51;13 - 00;35;17;01
Gary Johnston
It's definitely had me down the path of a lovely Sunday. Let's get out, enjoy some sunshine, and let's enjoy that sativa. Oh, my, my, my. This is from Jack truffle, third coast genetics. Let me remind you, Cultivar Corner is brought to you by Up in Smoke at 258 West Broadway in Vancouver. And remember, if you live in BC and you're 19 years of age or older, you can have something sent to you by mail order.
00;35;17;01 - 00;35;44;25
Gary Johnston
They often get to you in 1 or 2 days and if you live in Vancouver, you can order by 2 p.m. and they'll deliver it to you by e-scooter. It can't get better than that. Although the weed is pretty good. I'm a fan of Jack truffle. I I'm high and when I come back after a little bit of working through my endocannabinoid system and those, I don't know what they are.
00;35;44;25 - 00;36;10;24
Gary Johnston
But as they work further into my system, the impact is more. I'm getting higher, I'm getting high here. I gotta say, the Jack truffle from third goes genetics. It is a winner. Sharing stories about good weed while trying good weed. This is the cannabis potcast. I always seem to be surprised when we reach the end of another episode.
00;36;10;26 - 00;36;27;22
Gary Johnston
I'm. I'm surprised that we made it there. Or perhaps I'm surprised that we didn't make it there. In either case, thank you so much for being a listener of the Cannabis potcast. I'm so glad you're here and along for the ride. So let's get to the worst jokes. The worst dead jokes in the world. They're in my little box.
00;36;27;28 - 00;36;59;14
Gary Johnston
Word teasers, the worst dad jokes. And here we go. What do you call cattle that don't produce milk? Milk duds? What's the difference between a poorly dressed man on a tricycle and a well-dressed man on a bicycle, a tire? Some of them just kind of think. And I just love that. Why did cows wear cowbells? Because their horns don't work.
00;36;59;16 - 00;37;22;16
Gary Johnston
And why shouldn't you kiss somebody on January 1st? Because it is the first date that I don't know why I have so much fun with those, but I just. Maybe just because I'm old enough that I really love dad jokes. I hope you've had a good time today. From the guy in the clouds. That's it for episode 215 of the Cannabis potcast.
00;37;22;19 - 00;37;30;28
Ian
From the cannabis infused studio high above the Okanagan Valley. This was the cannabis potcast.